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Integralist_Jake
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« on: February 08, 2010, 06:11:33 PM »

Hello, my name is Jake Rutledge and I am from Indiana. I am 19 years old and have been politicaly conscience since the young age of 13, my initial political experiences were mostly Rockwellian American National Socialism but I left that position to explore the non-racialist sects and strands of Fascism (i.e. Integralism) as well as National Bolshevism and Strasserism. I have alligned myself with Integralism but I do not quite fit in with that crowd... Then again I can't really say where I belong in Third Postitionism and/or New Rightism, I guess one could say I'm a left-wing leaning Integralist cos of my working class and ecological sympathies. I'm currently helping to form an Integralist Party here in the US (though I have some conflicting views with the others)  and I am a member of the Ayvean Guard (apart of the Ayvean Nation -a micronation.)
 
 As far as spirituality is concerned I consider myself a Thelemite as it is a reconcilliation of all religions.
 I am interesting in learning more about strasserism, as well as building up contacts and hopefully friendships hence  why I have decided to sign up to this forum.

side note, I am not a racialist and I am personally not a white seperatist but I do feel that our European blood should be preserved (I don't see it as possible, but I am a sympathizer to the idea) and I take great pride in my German heritage (My mom and her family are from Dutenhoffen.)

I look forward to speaking with all you.
-Jake rutledge

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« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 09:30:21 PM »

Hello Jake -

Interesting and a bit eclectic views.. Many of us have some hodge podge of views as well. As far as 3P types of views in the US, I am not really positive whether or not such has a future here or not, only time will tell. Some of the Ron Paul for president crowd were open to hearing about such ideas but then again many were stuck in Constitutionalism as our nations salvation mode and couldn't be further from listening to any alternatives that didn't include Constitutionalism.

Some of us started out as sorts of Rockwellian NS types as well, then we grew up and realised that Rockwell wasn't concerned about Folk at all and the preservation of such as much as he was in promoting a NS type view. In other words it was more or less a political ideology and it's dead leader that he was loyal to, not to the keeping of Euro-America's heritages. He had a couple of good points such as his willing to work with Black Separatists to an extent but even that was a bit reactionary.

Most of us have likewise grown out of the fascist varieties and see 3P as an anti-fascist idea if anything, anti-stateist in other words. We view the state as one of the major problems of today. We are decentralists, libertarian nationalists if you will.

New-Right I don't know about others views as again those that are here are varied on such things, but I don't have any time for such and don't think it will ever work here in the US, thankfully. First off, the name-game just won't work. In the US obviously it brings to mind the Neocons who are simply warmed over Trotskey'ites. Then the rest of it is riddled with half truths in regards to Christianity.

Thelemite'ism... With that sort of stuff you might be better suited at Southgate's and some of his friends forum I think called "Tradition and Revolution". Lots of that sort of admitted occultist and love of Kaballah and that sort of thing over there I imagine.

I clicked on that Ayvean thing on youtube.. Wow! And that guys is criticizing WP skinheads for their dress? Serious? This guy is just as out of touch w reality as any SS uniform wearing nutzi or robe wearing klansman ever was.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2010, 12:35:06 AM »

I do have a question, I thought that the Strasserists were not oppossed to the idea of the state, is Folk and Faith more of a Third Positionist form of Anarchism?

And yes I did bash the WP movement, but mostly just the mainstream ANP, WAR, KKK, etc, etc. And yes I did mention uniforms while wearing a uniform but you must understand the skinhead movement wasn't racist at all and was made up of many non-whites and they were apart of the reggae scene.

The Ayvean Guard is NOT a political movement but a philosophical, educational, spiritual, and somewhat survivalist organization, a fraternity kinda like the Masons, and in that video I bashed uniforms in politics.

I also agree that New Right is not a good name in America and that many TPositionist and/or New Right wouldn't come to be in America (unless the people were starving in the streets) but it doesn't hurt to try.


I may have compeltely different veiws from those on this forum but I am wanting to study strasserism more, my eclectic tendencies demands it haha!

Is southgate's forum linked to the FandF site?
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2010, 08:05:54 PM »

I do have a question, I thought that the Strasserists were not oppossed to the idea of the state, is Folk and Faith more of a Third Positionist form of Anarchism?

And yes I did bash the WP movement, but mostly just the mainstream ANP, WAR, KKK, etc, etc. And yes I did mention uniforms while wearing a uniform but you must understand the skinhead movement wasn't racist at all and was made up of many non-whites and they were apart of the reggae scene.

The Ayvean Guard is NOT a political movement but a philosophical, educational, spiritual, and somewhat survivalist organization, a fraternity kinda like the Masons, and in that video I bashed uniforms in politics.

I also agree that New Right is not a good name in America and that many TPositionist and/or New Right wouldn't come to be in America (unless the people were starving in the streets) but it doesn't hurt to try.


I may have compeltely different veiws from those on this forum but I am wanting to study strasserism more, my eclectic tendencies demands it haha!

Is southgate's forum linked to the FandF site?


Strasserism does allow for a state, you are correct. I wonder though how the Strasser's would view such now though? Seems like that centralised kinda came back to bite them in the rear end in my opinion. Just because I don't recall offhand if it is on this forum or the old dead one, I will post their "14 Theses of the German Revolution" in the history section in a moment so you can read over it. If you haven't seen http://blr.folkandfaith.com I'd suggest checking it out. Obviously a bit dated now but this kinda goes more into that area.

Yes, I would say that FNF has grown into more "National Anarchist" variety then 3P though still holding a softspot for that sort of thing.

Third Position has some potential for the reason that so many like Alex Jones and the US patriot movement etc are now claiming to 'get beyond left and right'  and various ideas like that. New Right on the other hand brings to mind Neo Con who likewise claim to be the New Rightwing version of things though having nothing to do with Conservative Rightwing ideals.

As for the skinhead thing.. it really matters not much to me one way or the other, but for the sake of arguing, they were essentially working class English at their roots. RESISTANCE Records' "Resistance" I recall years and years ago did an awesome article on this. The original Skins probably weren't into NS'ism and knew next to nothing about such I imagine, but were quite nationalistic as even original reggae like Bob Marley was. It evolved or transformed obviously, but I don't think the apple fell too far from the original tree like you seem to figure. Matters little to us now, but interesting to talk about for me just because of where I came from years ago.

In regards to the "Tradition and Revolution" forum - nope. Don't link to it as it's semi new, took the place of the old NA'ist yahoo group, but we have never linked to "Synthesis" (the forum that the site is based off of kinda like this forum is to the actual main site I guess) either for a myriad of reasons which are probably self evident. Mainly, the occultist junk. All of the New World Order adherents essentially are religious occultists. Whether the U.N. and it's founders or Bohemian Grove so it never made any sense to me to be part of the same ideology as those that are trying to destroy and enslave all of "humanity". The more I have read into this area over the years and the better informed I have became about the UN and it's policies and that they have all came from and are striving to build a society that is based on occultism - I can't for the life of me get how those purporting to be against them can be part of a similar train of thought and not see the hypocrisy. I don't know how familiar you are personally with such, but I have read and seen far too much for my tastes. Those that are part of the powers that be are part of a "Luciferian" religion regardless of who the Biblical Lucifer really was, they make an idol out of him and are the promoters of darkness and evil. So studying Crowley and his "masturbatory magik" or engagements with young boys bottoms and Jewish Kabbalah teachings are not going to make the world a better place or expose those in power. A house divided can't stand... If none of that means anything to one, do a Scroogle search and you can find the place I would imagine.

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2010, 11:25:24 AM »

No reply from "Integralist Jake"?  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2010, 04:32:10 PM »

welcome.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 12:36:47 PM »

looks like IntegrationistJake went off on his own. No debate or rebuttal to the occultism and world government synthesis ideas, nothing on Crowley the 'satan'ist and his love of boys bottoms... seems like they all go that way once a light gets shined on their ideas.
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